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Marco The phoenix • 2 years ago

Ichiro Nagai who voiced Netero up until episode 114 died on January 27, 2014, while recording narration for a program in Hiroshima, Nagai suffered a bout of myocardial infarction.
From episode 122 onwards Netero was voiced by Banjo Ginga.

Langley • 2 years ago

RIP

That's really so sad RIP.

Maianimalhive • 1 year ago

Aw :(

₵ⱠØɄĐ © • 2 years ago

What makes this battle interesting for me is how Netero doesn't actually disagree with Meruem. In battles like this, it's usually "ideology vs ideology". However, I believe that to a certain extent, Netero probably agrees with Meruem.

The circumstance doesn't allow Netero to come to a consensus with Meruem, that's why I find this so thrilling. Netero has no choice on the matter; despite how he may feel about it.

AnimexUnicornxOtaku • 2 years ago

I believe that netero had everything including the choice. If the Hunter association teamed up with Meruem (which was probably Mereum’s goal) then they could do overrule the injustice in human society with both strength and intelligence. He could easily turn around and not listen to the orders he had gotten but his own selfish doctrines led him not too. Together meruem and netero couldve overcome a lot.

₵ⱠØɄĐ © • 2 years ago

Such would be the case. However, there is a bit of a deeper ground into this, actually.

The Hunter association is actually controlled by one person a lot. Pariston Hill made it so that hunters did not volunteer to help out Netero in this because he actually wanted Netero to resign as a chairman.

None of this is actually told directly, so it's ultimately just a theory craft henceforth, I'm not spoiling.

AnimexUnicornxOtaku • 2 years ago

Hmm, interesting, I still think if they teamed up it could’ve gotten interesting and made more logical sense for Netero in general because if that theory is true then Netero has no business killing Meruem, in fact siding with Meruem would be his greatest option.🤔

₵ⱠØɄĐ © • 2 years ago

It's true. Netero himself doesn't actually want to kill Meruem, but you'll see why that's the case in a few episodes. Essentially, their ideologies (Netero and Meruem's) are fairly similar.

However, the actual reason as to why nobody else sided with Netero when it comes to fighting Meruem is due to Netero's 100-type guanyin bodhisattva. The 100-type guanyin bodhisattva is extremely dangerous and can easily dispose of any allies or enemies. Hence, it's necessary for Netero to fight Meruem is a largely isolated place.

Though, if your doubt is why Netero himself agreed with this, it's because the reputation of the Hunter association would plummet if Netero didn't assure that Meruem would, without a doubt, go down.

I think around episode 126 or so, you'll get the bigger picture.

AnimexUnicornxOtaku • 2 years ago

Oh no no no that’s not what I meant, I know about the seclusion but I meant Netero and Meruem team up for the development of humanity. Justice would prevail and it’s not like anyone would be able to stop them.

₵ⱠØɄĐ © • 2 years ago

That would be really interesting to see, since they share the same essence in their moral codes. My guess is that Netero at a point feared Meruem's evolution as an ant and acknowledged the fact that Meruem was arguably more "human" than an "ant". By that logic, Netero should've just come to terms with Meruem and teamed up. So, your doubt does make sense.

My own interpretation is that Netero cares more about the Hunter association as a whole than that whole ordeal. That despite Netero deep down knowing that Meruem is right, he still wouldn't be able to accept it. Mereum did promise a fair world where selection would be a thing. You can't ignore that Meruem's methods are drastically brutal, however, by the end of everything, I truly believe that Meruem would not even care about world domination anymore. In other words, the whole fight would be the culmination of Netero's entire growth since he lived his life as someone arrogant and only after he did the praying practice over two years did he start to grow humble. By siding with Meruem, perhaps Netero viewed that as an act of escapism.

By conceding to escapism just because it's the right choice and the easy way out, Netero would turn a blind eye on his philosophy which is to be grateful. "Be grateful that you have been blessed with an opponent that you can go all out on". Conclusion being; I think Netero wanted to have this fight.

It's not about right or wrong, but by how the tide of the events went, if you get me. I'm not the best person to explain this as I am not wise enough, so I'm sorry if I didn't get my own interpretation across well.

AnimexUnicornxOtaku • 2 years ago

No your interpretation was very detailed and beautiful, understood it clearly. I also agree with you but only to a certain extent. I don’t agree with Netero’s choice of violence when Meruem only sought to be educated but in spite of that I do see where you’re coming from.

₵ⱠØɄĐ © • 2 years ago

Thanks. But it's not like I agree with Netero's choice as well. I consider Meruem the best character in Hunter X Hunter because I respect his later choices. I believe he was immensely reasonable while attempting to reason with Netero. Furthermore, as Meruem mentioned, he is at the top of the food chain which means that he is arguably more intelligent than humans as a whole. His entire view in order to make the world peaceful might've been brutal and lethal, but I believe it would've worked.

Divine Martial Cat • 9 months ago

Lol. He is top predator. It doesn't matter how he deals with his pray. He may chose to do whatever he want with his prey. This gives him all power and control over the prey. And you're seriously mistaken if you thing a prey won't fight back. Take my word, at some point one would develop a nen ability just like gon did while fighting pitou, that would be enough to kill the king. Which indicated that he's not actually permanently on the apex, but only temporarily.

You're overestimating the king a lot. He would have died just within few years.

Shiori (❤ Yamato ❤) • 1 year ago

Mereums's methods are quite brutal as you said, but if Netero would have been willing to sit down and talk about the situation they could come to some sort agreement that would not include said method.
Yes Netero doesn't have a lot to say if you look at the big picture, He would though be on the same terms with Mereum.
Netero could resolve to killing Mereum (but looking at the situation it's unlikely), but in the case of Netero losing and dying. The conversation would leave most likely some sort of impression on Mereum.

Edit: After watching a couple more episodes i understand now better what you were talking about.

TheLink GamersNetwork • 2 years ago

Yes but at the cost of billions of life's... wich make it morally not possible...

Honestly if you see it like that then even Light and Eren were right for what they did.

AnimexUnicornxOtaku • 4 months ago

they were lol.

Blaise • 1 month ago

Meruem said only certain humans were worth sparing, specifically those with great potential like Komugi or Netero himself. Given only a tiny fraction of the population belongs in that category—their basic sorting of the citizens would have only spared 1% of East Gorteau, and that's only a minimum for soldiers—this would mean probably at least 95% to possibly even 99% of humanity would be sacrificed.

Furthermore, humanity has never worked on the premise of the best individuals. Every single top performer is backed by many supporting people, and their every day interactions, even with the average person, carry weight. This wasn't a tenable dream from Meruem.

On top of this, you have the risk that Meruem's evil side wins out over his good side after all. Then all of humanity is doomed if Netero doesn't stop Meruem now.

Finally, yes, you do have the greed and ambition of humanity that will never allow themselves to be subordinated under Meruem's vision. The phone call from Netero with the executive stated to stop Meruem at all costs. If Netero failed, they would send more. It was always going to be all out war.

There are many reasons here why it's not as simple as Meruem presented and why they could never coexist as long as Meruem's premise was to conquer other nations.

Meanwhile, the Royal Guard is about 5-10 minutes away from intervening and stopping Netero. Pouf could read his mind, they could restrain him, Pitou could interrogate him. All of Netero's tactics would be revealed and his fighting ability crippled.

Netero is not as intelligent as Meruem, but he is far wiser with his years and knowledge of humanity. He was aware of all the above considerations, where the discourse would ultimately lead, and that he was forced to fight immediately. Discussion was never an option.

Even so, Netero is a good person who feared losing his resolve to fight a brilliant existence whose main crime was ignorance. Yet this is what it means to be at war. We destroy pure existences that do not deserve to die, in order to protect something else whose safety is nonnegotiable and under threat. Netero felt the need to hasten the fight to stop his heart from being swayed, to win before the royal guard arrived, to avoid discussions that had no short-term resolution, and to preclude the risk that Meruem changes his mind about respecting humanity.

Someone • 2 years ago

Oof the king was about to go down the path of redemption but grandpa went nopee

bringbackhotd • 2 years ago

Not really redemption, he still wanted to be king of Earth

Hawk's Eye • 2 years ago

And he's also planning to kill everyone who doesn't seem to deserve to live according to him.

TheLink GamersNetwork • 2 years ago

Which is not really bad

Priince2k • 2 years ago

Excuse me?

TheLink GamersNetwork • 2 years ago

I dont excuse you, now fk off

Thextruxotaku • 2 years ago

so hostile, calm down buddy boy.

Mrinmoy Baruah • 1 year ago

Horse style doggy style both

Thextruxotaku • 1 year ago

wha...??

wertego • 1 year ago

Pepperoni in Massachusetts

TheLink GamersNetwork • 2 years ago

It's sarcasm...

Thextruxotaku • 2 years ago

right buddy boy

Divine Martial Cat • 9 months ago

Lol. What are you even trying to say here ? It's obviously bad for human who would have gotten executed for not possessing a talent worthy of praise.

There's nothing wrong with human defending themselves either.

TheLink GamersNetwork • 9 months ago

Nah humans are livestock for government and fat people , better they just getting slaughtered at leave have a purpose this way

30170 • 2 years ago

"Your Name"

ruu_ • 2 years ago

it’s kinda sad knowing the bad guy always dies

₵ⱠØɄĐ © • 2 years ago

But Tompa never died.

Troll • 2 years ago

Eh. If only Meruem Was able to do that task. Sad how he is a kinda 50/50 good person but will still have to face the consequences.

Shizuka • 2 years ago

He k1lled people without regret and any hesitation,to me he deserves d4ath the same way with the royal knights

popoko • 2 years ago

but lot of humans kill animal for food and for pleasure without hesistation too. meruem is nice enough to discuss thing with human. but do human nice enough to respect what animal want? plus human ruining earth. from ur view. its like u said we deserve death. sorry but, i hope that 'deserve death" thing only apply to you

dau la fata • 2 years ago

the deserve to die dilema, dont go there... biggest subject ever. i'll just say something because i dont want to type anymore.. is there an being that didnt killed something? or thinks of but cant because it's powerless? everyone deserves to die because we all killed at least something. so deserves to die it's useless to say because we all deserve to die.

Divine Martial Cat • 9 months ago

lol

Shadman20073 • 2 years ago

think about that from the perspective of a being that is not human

TheLink GamersNetwork • 2 years ago

He is 2 months old lol... your mom eaten your almost brothers and sisters killing millions in the process of few swallowing... u still here talking shiet bozo?

Shizuka • 2 years ago

how is my mom connected to a fucking monster? And plus if im not mistaken, this monster have HIGH iq regardless of their age because that's what the ant queen wanted right? did you watched the anime

AnimexUnicornxOtaku • 2 years ago

You need to realise that meruem in retrospect it’s still a newborn child, he lacks the experience and knowledge of the world first hand and relied on his primal instincts, him and his royal guards. Therefore it’s natural that he killed without hesitation because like the food chain, human beings were his food supply and he so happened to be above humans in that chain. He later realised this wasn’t correct when he spoke about how he mercilessly killed that child who had potential to be great, however as netero said his human side and his chimera and side will always juxtapose each other.

Abhinav Neoharys Varma • 2 years ago

The thing is even if Meruem was Jesus reincarnate or be the goodest of the guy that ever walked on the planet, Netero still had to kill him. Netero himself admitted in this episode that if he talks with him his heart might change if Meruem actually turns out to be good guy.

Divine Martial Cat • 9 months ago

Nah, he wasn't gonna compromise on killing human at all. They are the best source of food afterall. which is why he attacked.

TheLink GamersNetwork • 2 years ago

I changed my mind from bad to good about this arc but still I can't help but to think how lame and pathetic Netero really is.

Its Gonna Be Okay • 1 year ago

So do you agree with Meruem? He would spare only those he deemed worthy where is equality here? What would happen to those who in his eyes arent worthy? Meruems world wouldnt be better than the one they currently live in. It would be just much bloodier.

Rondo • 4 months ago

That is debatable. There is a very good chance that Meruem would be a better ruler than the drug cartel who ruled the country he was born in or the dictator whose palace he took over. The culling of 5 million would not happen twice because Meruem will no longer think nothing of snuffing out a life with potential for something other than combat.

So long as Muruem does not breed more queens, life under him will be better than life in North Korea. If Meruem can find/create a nen chef that can craft non-human based meals that will satisfy all of the squadron leaders on up, then life under Meruem will be better than that of most human countries.

The problem is that there is no guarantee that Meruem will continue to become humane. Ant ecology says he should turn humans into livestock while proliferating wildly. While it is very likely Meruem will be better than many human rulers with fewer of his citizens dying each day and less corruption in his government, there is still a chance that something causes him to revert to his primal tendencies. If that happens after this, it will be a disaster several times in scale.

Personally, I am interested in seeing Meruem's government. The odds of Meruem getting better and better are high enough that I'd rather Netero had sat down for discussion. However, I'm not 100% in that direction because there is no guarantee that Meruem will be eternal and it is possible that he will have offspring that risk the end of humanity. Meruem and his subjects and worthy of negotiation, but I admit that having chimera ants near human society is a massive risk.